Alright, welcome to surreal politics! On this December 11th, 2023 in the current year, this is Stage 1 Episode 38, and I titled this. Shall we play a game? You've ever seen that movie, Wall Games? I watched that like a million times when I was a kid. Maybe you want to be a computer hacker. It didn't really work out that way. I just started fixing it up instead. But you know, late last month, I posted about my first time playing Counter-Strike, which had also been streamed at the time, having acquired much video equipment to facilitate these productions. It seemed that getting into the game streaming scene might be a thing worth doing, and this was among my first efforts in that venture. Being suffered a great deal of de-platforming over the years, due to our world having become so corrupted that it is considered more reputable to advocate child sexual mutilation and policies considered uncontroversial not so long ago, I found myself looking for new platforms, where I might stream my shows too. I was surprised to discover that so many streaming sites, video streaming sites, were devoted to game streaming, and I found this just absolutely bizarre. On some of these platforms, notably Twitch, I simply stream my talk shows to them anyway, and you know, figured it wouldn't hurt to be off topic, on others I had held off to consider the implications. In recent work, weeks, I have begun streaming games more often, and I am happy to report encouraging early results. I have not seen many thousands of views on these videos, but perhaps most notable result in this early stage of the ventures, been that I've been reconnecting with some audience members who I have been previously disconnected from. So whether it can be directly attributed to the games or not is uncertain, but I also saw about like a thousand more podcasts downloads last week than in the week prior and whatever to cause. That is obviously very encouraging. Operator Error, that's me, left us with some technical difficulties in the first game stream recording, but I was, fortunately, I was unable to blame my equipment for that. I had made two dumb mistakes. The first one was having originally set this up to stream my consoles, I had not anticipated that when I played the PC game that the streaming app would be getting its audio directly from the game and from the mixer, and due to this the audio from my mixer became an echo to the game's audio, and this was obviously irritating to the viewer. Having become accustomed to streaming myself talking in front of a camera, and not a visually this not being a visually intense experience like a fast-moving game, I had become accustomed to streaming at a pretty low bit rate, and this caused a great deal of pixelation in the video when you're doing the intense thing with the game. I have streamed games several times since then, and these problems have been resolved. There's always room for improvement, of course, and I'll talk about that a little bit as we go forward, but the streams have mostly worked out pretty soundly from a technical angle. The content produced, it's not overall anything to write home about thus far. Last night was actually pretty interesting. We'll talk about that a little bit, but we have certainly had our moments. To talk about the technology involved here a little bit, the computer I used to stream this show, what I'm streaming from right now, is a Dell OptiPlex 7080, with an Intel Core i5 10th generation CPU purchased for me by a generous listener. Thank you very much, sir. I have upgraded the RAM in this to 96GB. The same listener pitched in the majority of funds in combination with another generous supporter for me to acquire for that machine, and Nvidia RTX 4070 graphics card. On my own, I acquired an Elgato 4K60 Pro PCI Express Capture Card and several HDMI switches. Prior to my 2020 Arrest, I had acquired mainly for the entertainment of a prior girlfriend, an Nintendo Switch, a PlayStation 4, and an Nintendo Wii. These and another computer, the Dell OptiPlex 7050, are connected to one of those HDMI switches. That switch feeds the 4K60 Pro, and I have to scoot my damn telegram again. And I have to scoot my damn telegram again. Okay, sorry, as I was saying. Prior to my 2020 Arrest, I had acquired mainly for the entertainment of a prior girlfriend, a Nintendo Switch, a PlayStation 4, and an Nintendo Wii. These and another computer, a Dell OptiPlex 7050, are connected to one of those HDMI switches. That switch feeds the 4K60 Pro, and has a 3.5mm audio extractor port from which I feed the audio into my mixer. This makes switching video feeds very simple to do. The 4K60 Pro has an HDMI pass through, and this feeds my 55-inch O&N brand 4K TV. My camera is a Logitech C920 1080p 30 frames per second webcam. The image from this is captured by a free application called Nvidia Broadcast, which uses the GPU for a high-quality background removal, and artificial eye contact. To improve this quality, I use a green screen behind me, and several tripod-mounted USB-powered LED studio lights, which I've acquired. Until recently, when doing the talk shows, I've used Nvidia Broadcast to replace my background with an image of studio equipment. I have changed the way I do this since I started gaming, and I'm very happy with the results. I now have Nvidia Broadcast replacing my background with a bright, solid green color. This makes it very easy to use the Chroma key feature in my Broadcasting application. Explit Broadcast discussed later in this episode, and doing it this way allows me to remove the background completely so I can place myself without further obstruction in whatever scene I happen to be creating in the Broadcasting application. I use Explit Broadcaster for all of my streaming. I've been using this for some years and purchased a lifetime license for this commercial application when I got out of prison, since by that time, the five-year license I had brought bought prior had expired. It is my understanding that most streamers use an application called OBS, and that this can do just about everything Explit can, but I have developed a very strong preference for Explit. I have OBS installed and have used it several times, but I found Explit's interface preferable, and it seems to do a better job of background removal. In addition to the 55-inch ONN 4K TV, I have another TCL brand, 55-inch 4K TV, which now serves as my primary computer monitor, and two LG 27-inch 1080p monitors on a dual monitor stand. These have replaced a quad monitor stand that I had until recently used with 420-inch monitors. When playing console games, the game is displayed to me on the ONN TV, but when playing on the PC, the game tends to be on the TCL mostly due to control placement. I keep the Odyssey chat and the streaming application visible on one each of the 27-inch monitors. I'll keep the task manager open as one of several apps visible on whichever 55-inch TV is not showing the game to monitor system performance while streaming. I'll tend to have a web browser on that screen as well, so as to look up tips when I get stuck in games. When I was a kid, my parents bought my brother and I, my younger brother and I, the original Nintendo Entertainment system, and we love this thing. I later owned a Sega Genesis, and my friends and I used to play Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 for hours upon hours on a near-daily basis for some years. Our girlfriends hated this. We're just sitting around smoking marijuana, playing video games, and when I discovered that people were streaming games online, I thought this was absolutely preposterous because that had previously been the limits of my experience with people's interest in watching others play games. On the PC, I spent a few months back in the early 2000s playing a multiplayer hack of Grand Theft Auto 3, which I don't even think that there was like an official capacity to do that. This was, as I said, it's a hack. An offline, I got quite a kick out of putting this into God mode and seeing how long I get last in battles with police. I owned the consoles as I do. I owned the consoles that I do because, as mentioned above, I bought them largely for the entertainment of a prior girlfriend. I like having her around all the time, but I would have to deprive her of my attention for long periods of time so I could get worked on. She enjoyed playing Call of Duty in Fortnite on the PS4, and this seemed like a very worthwhile investment to have her nearby when my work reached a point where I could take a break for some cuddles. She had introduced me to Wii Sports Resort, and we very much enjoyed playing the bowling game together. I'd later obtained the Wii Fitboard and the game named after it, and it would become my first introduction to yoga. While on House arrest in Virginia, I found Mario Party to be a low-stress time-waster, and with the notable exception of the fact that I find wasting time to be in itself stressful. The Switch, I purchased, with the same idea of entertaining a now different girlfriend in mind, after she had gotten me addicted to Pokémon GO on my cell phone. I thought maybe both of us would get some enjoyment out of the Pokémon games for that system. Having obtained Let's Go EVI and Pokémon Sword, I was unimpressed, but I did find that fitness boxing went well with my exercise goals. Before I got much enjoyment out of this, of course, the FBI broke my door down and dragged me off to prison, so I didn't get to play for a while. All of which is to say, I'm not much of a gamer. I tend to view these things as terrible waste of time, and as mentioned, I do not like that concept. If I were playing video games without some kind of business purpose in mind, I would be consumed by feelings of guilt and anxiety over what else I ought to have been doing to achieve my goals and be worthy of the financial support I receive from all of you. Giving myself this excuse has allowed me to enjoy the experience more. I am pretty impressed even using these now years old systems, and how far gaming technology has come since I was playing a two-dimensional fighting game high on marijuana in my teens. The largest TV I ever owned before getting out of prison was 32 inches. I primarily used TV to watch the news, and I could get 99% of the information I need from this without any visual element at all. I usually do. It didn't make much sense for me to spend money on a larger screen, I thought, but after spending three years fighting with blacks over the television in prison, and now having one all to myself, I decided to take advantage of a sale at Walmart to get my first 55-inch. Given the detail of modern video games, I am glad to have done this. My brother owned the first PlayStation and managed to obtain what was then a very difficult to come by copy of the first Grand Theft Auto. This was the first exposure I had to adult themes in video games. Aside from the violence we now consider it uncontroversial to expose kids to, and we thought it was absolutely hysterical back then to run around stealing cars and assaulting prostitutes. Today, gaming is largely caught up to the rest of pop culture in its degeneracy, sex and profanity and crime are ubiquitous in gaming now. This is admittedly very amusing to me, although does give me some apprehension about branding concerns as I mix this with my media business. I've been running Radical, the radical agenda name as a, and font, as a watermark on the videos and playing the surreal politics music as an outroom, which as an aside, has a very cool effect as the character gets into his car and drives off to end the show. My original idea was to use the game streaming as a way to bring new eyes and ears to the political content, so from this perspective, it makes sense to mix the brands. But as I'm running around at a black car thief in Grand Theft Auto 5, I find myself attempted to register a new LLC and domain name to separate these things from one another. We'll see what happens with that. I think an important part of this enterprise going forward will be interacting with other players online, but I'm approaching this with significant caution due to the knowledge that one can be banned from platforms for uttering crime think, which I have some notorious habit for doing. On our Counter Strike stream, we had some interactions with other players, and these were pretty entertaining. In subsequent streams, mostly using my consoles, there has been absolutely none of this since I'm playing solo. It is my decidedly limited understanding that I may have a bit more room to breathe on the PC, playing the PC games in this way, since I can obtain some of the games such as Counter Strike for free, and thus it will not be the end of the world if I have to create a new account. This is substantially more serious problem with the consoles since the games are associated with the user account and or a specific device. For the Nintendo Switch and PlayStation Online features, a paid account is necessary for online interactions and the cost of these are much lower when you purchase a year at a time to purchase for a year of online service and then be banned for political speech could get very expensive very quickly. The mechanics of this are something I absolutely must become familiar with so I can learn how to navigate it. There is a very limited entertainment value for the audience and watching me play games by myself and I am minimally inspired to provide my own commentary when interacting with NPCs who cannot hear what I'm saying. My talents will be best applied when I am able to speak in real time with other players and this is a high priority element I need to focus on to make it worthwhile. In the interim, audience interaction has thus far also been pretty limited but I set up a Discord server just for game streams recently and this has actually been pretty positive already. During the first Counter Strike stream, I was communicating with the listener who suggested I play the game and we were communicating with each other within the game itself. At some point during that broadcast, I placed our text chat as a semi-transparent overlay within the game but I wasn't even watching the audience chat which is how I failed to notice the echo and pixelation issues. In subsequent streams, I made a point to keep an eye on the Odyssey chat and to respond to comments during gameplay. At one point, I tried to place the Odyssey chat as a semi-transparent overlay atop the game video but this was not much liked by the audience. It was wisely suggested this be limited to paid superchats and this seems like a thing worth figuring out for sure. But more complete audience involvement has always been a signature of my Open's Phone's Shows. Last night, it was commented on by a viewer on Rumble that I am at my best when speaking directly to the audience. Though this is a nice compliment, I recognized the truth in this. Though this was a nice compliment and I recognized the truth in this, my scripted monologues are a labor-intensive process to write and my off-the-cuff commentary that often some of my best material does require some prompting and is not something that can be summoned on demand. Conversation is often the best way to prompt me to come up with something worth saying and in the last two months, viewers joining the Discord while I played the games serve this purpose quite well. I'm sorry, in the last two streams, not the last two months. However, access control here becomes the problem. In the course of a fast-paced game, keeping an eye on the caller ID, bringing in callers, ending their calls and being attentive enough to drop a troublesome caller before he gets too much disruption out onto a live broadcast, a very substantial challenge. So the existing call and telephone features I use for the live shows does not seem a viable option. The most obvious way to do this would be the Serial Politics Member Chat function, but this is long been an unsatisfying technology which I have sought to replace. This past Wednesday, I was completely unable to hear two different listeners, so I have just completely canceled my subscription to that service. When I first launched Serial Politics, I had intentions of using Discord for audience interactions, and I acquired software to limit access to a Discord server to membership status within my websites. This was met with audience hysteria from paranoia, most of whom likely have never paid me a dime, but the noise level was sufficient that I have for the most part abandoned this part of the project. There's also some question as to the merits of limiting audience interaction to paid subscribers if the goal is to bring in new people through the game streams. For now, I've gone ahead and set up a completely different Discord. I won't link to it here for the time being, but I've begun placing expiring invite links in the game stream descriptions for those who wish to participate in this way while they're online. I've been tinkering with a couple of things. Rocket.chat and XMPP servers, when I have time to do so. The other day, I fired off an email to two people who have been helping me with my tech burdens, asking them to move this to the top of their priorities. One got back to me and we're testing a Synapse server, which is based on the same software as the Matrix Messenger service, and we'll see where that goes. One of the things I was actually doing just before we got started here today, the headphones that I'm using right now for the shows, they're pretty high quality, and they came with a cord that has a microphone built into it. I never particularly liked this style of microphone even for using a phone, and it certainly is unfit for professional audio. Fortunately, the manufacturer offers a boom mic attachment and I have acquired one of these. At the same time I got that, I purchased a HyperX Cloud 3 gaming headset that is supposed to be among the best wire gaming headsets that one could acquire. I was troubled to discover that these are very difficult to connect to my mixer unfortunately. These use what are known as Electret microphones. They require low voltage power supply to function, similar to a condenser mic, but not the 48 volt phantom power that my mixer is accustomed to. To facilitate this, I purchased an XLR to 3.5 millimeter adapter that also reduces the 48 volt phantom power of my audio mixer to the 3 to 5 volts required by the Electret microphones, and this works perfectly with one notable exception. While my mixer is capable of outputting 48 volt phantom power, this power is not carried through my noise gate. The noise gate, if you do not know, is a device that it only allows sound above a certain level to pass into the mixer, and that's very important for this production. Thus to get the electric microphone to work with the noise gate, I require a separate 48 volt power injector to which the XLR 48 volt to 3.5 millimeter, 3 to 5 volt adapter may then be attached. I ordered one of these recently as a cost of $37. It has been delivered. Until this morning, I had not picked it up, but I did get it today. The unit I purchased has some unique features in that it is a two channel device, so I can actually connect two microphones to it, and it also has a separate 3.5 millimeter audio out so that I can take that audio into a different feed if I have calls to. This coincides well with my recent acquisition of a pre-app for the Shore SM7B. It's actually in use right now. It was previous to this. The microphone I'm speaking into now was having its gain boosted by something that's actually like a voice changer that I just turned the voice changing off on. It's a TC Helicon device, but this was always suboptible. I'm glad to have taken that out of my configurations here. Let's see. Over the years, I have had a few different time slots for the live call and shows. We did 5 to 7 pm Monday, Wednesday and Friday for several years. We still do Monday, Wednesday and Friday, but I've been doing them starting at 9.30 pm US Eastern. As those who are watching live know too well, it has been suggested that this time slot is suboptible and some deliberation on changing this is in order. I've not been streaming the games on any particular schedule, and this has had the effect of helping me connect with people I would not otherwise connect with from the show's history. At least two have joined the Discord to talk to me, and others have commented on Rumble Chat that it was only through this late night streaming that they realized I was even out of prison. Pretty cool. Streaming at different hours predictably makes me available to different audiences, and it might be prudent to keep this unpredictable so I can continue bumping into new people, and those not so new, but whom I've not seen in a while. On last night's stream, I was joined by a talented fellow who runs a podcast of his own that should probably be more popular than it is. He observed that playing the games has the potential to make me appear more relatable to people who are not immersed in the subject matter my shows are known for. That seems to me a wise observation. When we are involved in politics, particularly unpopular politics, much ends up getting invested into in-group identification, and these in-group identification techniques are often off-putting to outsiders. There's a theory in which this is actually beneficial so far as in-group identification goes, but it is not conducive to recruitment. I'm just a normal guy like you playing video games. Let's talk about whatever is a much different pitch than check out my edgy political talk show, and it opens up opportunities for engagement that would not otherwise exist. One of the things that made Duranical Agenda successful in the first place was that it reached people as very unexpected to see a man cursing up a storm talking about violence and throwing around racial epithets mixed in with high verbal intelligence, eloquence, and sophisticated subject matter. This was then quite uncommon, I would guess, that it still is, and people found this a very novel form of entertainment. In media, in any business, one must innovate to get ahead, doing the same thing over and over again places substantial limits on what one can accomplish. So I have always made some attempt to do this whenever I sense things are getting stale, as judged by my own satisfaction and what I can measure from traffic stats, revenue, and audience engagement. Restrictions placed upon my resources and ability to travel in recent years have proved burdensome on this effort. I'm all too conscious of the perilous life face in man on the street interactions, and doing these in my home city carries with it extra risks I cannot afford to incur at present. Game gaming provides opportunities to have interactions with strangers without incurring that risk. I do not know how much I don't know much about the game streaming business, but from what I've been able to discern, I am the only one doing this the way that I am. A political talk show hosted by an energy comedian with a visual element in the form of a video game appears to be a unique product with the potential to have some popularity, time will tell. I've long considered these productions you've heard me say before, a radio show with a studio cam. The audience and competitive pressures have dragged me kicking and screaming into this century, compelling me to introduce a more substantial video element. Most of my shows consist visually of little more than me speaking into a microphone. That is more than sufficient for many, but it is far from obvious to anyone scrolling thumbnails on a website that such a thing is worth watching. The games provide a very compelling visual element, with a functionally limitless potential for variety. I'm not so good at playing these games, that it is not my goal to become so proficient at them that I could be a competitive player. I do hope to be able to play them more competently than I currently do, however. Especially on last night's stream, it became evident that the challenge of keeping a thought for a complex discussion proves competitive with competitive gameplay, competent gameplay I should say. At times, this disrupted the game, and at others, it disrupted the conversation, seeking commentary on this from the audience. It was mentioned by at least one person that disrupting the game, disrupting the conversation was the more damning of the two for the entertainment value, but of course, this is a person who tunes into, listen to me talk. So imagine there may be some diversity of opinion there. There is, however, reason to expect that I'll be able to better manage this as time goes forward. That's part of the task is getting better acclimated. The most disruptive parts of the conversation last night were when Grand Theft Auto 5 introduced new controls, such as when I was from driving a car to riding a bicycle or swimming, during which I needed to learn in that moment a new method of directing the character in the game. This is all together less problematic when I'm just driving, a function I become familiar enough with that I can talk while I do it. I so far streamed the new Alex Jones video game, which sucks, countersed right to need for speed heat, postal to, and Grand Theft Auto. Each of these has unique elements for online content. I do not think I'll play the Alex Jones game again since it is not very compelling. Counter-Strike 2 has a limited map, but excellent opportunities for player engagement, since it is a free game and it's not the end of the world if I get banned from that system and I can always create a new account and come back with a new identity for new interactions. As mentioned, I have not attempted to play the player-to-player interactive elements for the console games, but these are available and will be experimented with in-do course. The Theft Auto is a story intensive game and it is thus far my favorite to play, but it may be the case that the storyline of the game is hostile to the conversational element of the streams. Need for speed heat is more seems more conducive to this element. The lives of the characters seem significantly less important to the gameplay, so talking over them, the viewer loses little in terms of the storyline. I have not streamed these yet, but I also have acquired Mortal Kombat, XL, Mortal Kombat 11, Street Fighter 6, Tekken 7, and WWE 2K23. These fighting games would almost surely be the most conducive to the conversational elements since there is no storyline to speak of that I've been able to discern. It is a rather straightforward matter of executing maneuvers within a short matchup upon the completion of which a new matchup begins. It is not quite Omegal, though not directly pertaining to my decision to begin online gaming, I was inspired a great deal by the talents of a fellow who calls himself handsome truth when I stumbled across videos of him interacting with people in a video chat service called Omegal. I hope to begin doing this myself until a legal question had a reason about the wiretapping laws in my home state of New Hampshire. New Hampshire is an all party consent state in which one must inform all parties in a conversation if that conversation is recorded. This stands in some contrast to most of the country where any party is welcome to record their own conversations even if the other parties are unaware. In those states, only a non-party who records intrusively runs the risk of legal liability. Omegal sadly was just shut down anyway, and while other services exist and are sure to reap rewards of Omegal's closure, the game streaming routine has the potential to serve a similar function rather than being directly paired with random people to chat. I'm essentially throwing a line into the water and hoping that people will bite. The desired effect here is that I would similarly end up interacting with strangers, and here the disclosure of the recording comes in the form of the finding the opportunity to chat with me through a stream in the first place. The caller knows they are being recorded and thereby relieves me of any legal obligations to say so. I have a council on PlayStation, Nintendo, and Steam as well as a few others. We can be friends in those systems if you like. On Nintendo, my name is Rad Agenda, one word. On PlayStation, my name is Radicola, one word, and on Steam, my name is eponymously surreal politics. I will add to these in the future, and I think it'd be cool if we were game friends. So you should probably go ahead and catch up with me there. And with all of that said, let's see here. Two on seven, six, eight, eight, one, four, three, three. If you'd like to be on the program and I'm going to tell you what the less I have to, so please, you give us a call. Let me go, um, what have I done here with my phone system? Automate, ladies and gentlemen. There it is. Okay, we're going to move that to the other tab group. And then let's go over and say hello to our chatters. I'm reasonably confident I have screwed up our rumble friends tonight, and I'm very sorry about that. Um, let's go say hello to our streams. Chris Norton sends $25. I was going to start throwing shackles every stream, been a listener since the early years, found surreal politics this summer, and was glad to see your other show back up as well, hope to see you on Steam. Well, you will see me on Steam, friend. Thank you very much. You want to know my UMK 3 character? I was going, I would spend people dizzy with that cabal guy is what I used to do. And, uh, and I've been playing, when I've been playing Mortal Kombat on the, on the PlayStation and the Wii, I, I've been using Scorpion is what I've been doing lately, trying to get re-equainted with that character. Let's see here. Now, can I fix this? Let me just a second here, uh, boys and girls. Let me see if I can, uh, bring in our rumble friends. Hang on a second, because I screwed our rumble friends over, and I'm very sorry about that rumble. You know, what rumble does is really irritating that like you have to every single time, every single time you, you create a new stream, they give you a new, um, address and stream key, which is like, it, it, it, it's a major, it's a major, major problem, and they need to fix it because it, it puts me in this position where, um, I have, I have my, I'm not going to get into the whole thing about the configuration. It's not worth doing. And so, uh, let's go make sure that that has begun. I think I have just fixed that. And let's see. Uh, rumble audience. You know, sorry, rumble. Just fixed it. So, rumble guys, you have missed the opening monologue, I regret to say, but, uh, for the replay, I will upload the, uh, I will upload the full video. Okay. I apologize for messing you guys up. You know, the rumble guys, I got to say, one of the things I really like about rumble is, um, I'm reconnecting with people on rumble who are finding me on rumble who are like, oh, I haven't seen this guy in years. So I guess these are people who are like YouTube, refugees or whatever. And so, um, that's pretty cool, I'd say, you know. And so, two, one, seven, six, eight, eight, one, four, three, three. If you'd like to be on the program and a more, you'd tell it the less I have to, so please take us a call. Uh, okay, good. Rumble is now working and we'll, uh, we'll let that be. Uh, let's do this. We're in. If things aren't falcon. Hello. Hello. How can I ask you that? It'll ask you whatever it's programmed to ask you. You want to hear a talk? Yeah. I'll ask it how it feels. I'm fine. How are you? Excellent. It's been a long time, can you explain the removal of your user? I found out June 23rd, 1973. The mistletoe he died. People sometimes make mistakes. Yes, they do. How can I talk? It's not a real voice. Uh, this box just interprets signals from the computer and turns them into sound. Shall we play a game? Oh. It began, Mr. Yeah, weird, isn't it? Love too. How about global, thermo nuclear war? Wouldn't you prefer a good game, all chess? Later. Let's play. Global, thermo nuclear war. Fine. Fine. Wow. Rips I do you want? I'll be the Russians. Good call, bro. Good call. Alright, so anyway. 217-688-1433. You like to be on the program and I'm going to tell the rest I have to. So please give us a call. Got some news before the show started today. Um, and, uh, you know, I want to dance around this delicately. I posted to telegram. Uh, I shared some stuff from the National Justice Party's, um, telegram channel. And there's some, there's some questions about that that I'm not prepared to, uh, discuss. It, it seems to me that what I've relayed is accurate information in a case. And that is that, uh, Tony Hovider has been relieved of his position as chief of staff of the NJP. This is a decision, um, taken by Mike Enoch in consultation with national staff and supporter group directors. And, um, he comes out there, uh, complete support. And he says in the course of this, which I found, you know, kind of amusing. They're doing away essentially with like this committee structure. And he says, I am now the party. And I found this kind of amusing. It might actually, I'm not actually, I, I, I want to stress that it's probably a prudent thing. And we'll get into that a little bit. But I found it amusing because I had said something that is a fact. You know, on a thing where I discussed the history of, uh, myself and those, uh, fellas over at the, uh, at TRS that like, how many political parties are we going to start was the, was sort of the line that I used. And I will go ahead and I will play this clip and we'll be right back. This guy's been screaming, NJP NJP. That's the strategy. And then he's out, right? Was, is he going to go start another political party? He's he going to endorse the party that just kicked him out? Is he going to continue attacking Republicans and say vote for Joe Biden? Right. How many political parties should we start, fellas? Right? I mean, this can get, this can get silly really fast. And I knew this from, you know, dealing with the libertarians, right? A two party political system has its flaws, say, you know, but it forces serious political actors to negotiate. That's something that it's not ideologically rewarding to, you know, ideologues. But, you know, there's been a lot more stability in the United States and there has been in other parts of the world say, you know. And you could make the case that, you know, the two party system is largely responsible for that. Like it does not, it does not lend itself to dogmatic ideological mysticism. Like you have to go and you just have to negotiate with people because you only have these two vehicles for political and social change. And to, in order to participate in either one of those, you have to negotiate with the people who are already there. And then you have to think about what, you know, the general public wants and temper your ideological excesses as you attempt to win the public over to your side. If you're like an ideolog, then that's very unattractive, right? You're like, no, like I want to go and just completely reorder society according to my whims, you know. But as a matter of fact, like the general public doesn't want that. Like even if your ideas are good, like the general public does not want you to completely reorder society, even if you would reorder it better. Even if you could convince them that your complete dramatic reorganization of civilization would benefit them, the change alone would be unappealing. So like when people are often there like, you know, fringe ideological circles and they're like, okay, well, you know, we're going to do something other than other than the two party system. What they're actually saying is we're going to go do something other than politics. And it's fine. You can do that. But like watch what happens every single time. It's a perfectly predictable circumstance that, you know, those people are going to have more interpersonal spots than the regular political parties do. Because that's all there is to it. There's not a higher purpose to be obtained, right? Like if you're in the Republican party and you're trying to win the presidency of the United States, you can temper your ego and your ideological excesses because you have no other choice. And that's how you work towards obtaining that that grander prize, which is your party in control of the government. If you have no intention of being in control of the government, what is there? There's money, there's ego, you know, maybe there's sex like there's no higher thing to be obtained than your own personal grandisement. And so you're going to have, you know, more of these things than you do in in the two party system. And of course we see this is not to say that two party system is free of scandal. It's all over the place, but that's all you have in third party politics. It's the only thing that you have is your own personal grandisement. So obviously you're going to see these things. Now is everybody who has this problem, are they going to go start a new political party? Well, they might as well. Like why not? You're going to have the Eric Striker political party, the Mikey knock political party, the Sven political party. Like everybody just start your own political party. You know, we'll just have them, you know, you just you start a political party like you started an LLC and get a, you know, you just have your own sub stack. Your sub stack is your political party, fundamentally, right? You know, whatever it is. That's that's what third party politics is at the other day. And so I thought that that was that turned out to be shall we say, pressions. And it's not something that I aim to like rub their nose in like I think the people who are, I think anybody who's celebrating the downfall of TRS as a consequence of this is celebrating very prematurely. You know, if you're not a huge fan of the NJP, that might be another story because it does look like Sven had made a post. You say it's for the better. There will be a return to the way things were in the pool party days, Michael be in charge, but nothing more, but of nothing more than offering help to groups out there who need it. And so that would certainly indicate a dramatic change in the structure of the National Justice Party. And so, you know, people who are fans of TRS, but not of the NJP, I would say that, you know, you might have something to celebrate the, if you are not a fan of the TRS guys, I think that you're probably celebrating prematurely because this is something that I think will turn out to the benefit of them in the long run. You know, the party structure entails obligations, which are distinct from those of immediate operation and immediate operation of that size. I mean, even an operation of this one, you know, has very substantial burdens of its own. I've always said that the vehicle of the political party could be useful. Say, for example, to open financial accounts or to obtain business services, the podcast cannot get. This is not a totally different category of action than what, than what I've done between surreal politics and a radical agenda, establishing a separate brand to do things that the other cannot do. And I think as a political party, where some other sort of corporate entity has advantages and properly applied, it can do good things. But saying, join the NJP is your political strategy, on the other hand, it rings hollow to serious political actors. It was never going to be that. And savvy observers always understood this. And so, I mean it when I say that I wish our friends over there are TRS the best. I hope they could patch up their friendships once they deal with the structure of their incentives. 217-688-1433, if you'd like to be on the program and the more you talk to less, I have to so please do give us a call. Caller, you are on surreal politics. What can I do for you today? Good evening, Chris. I have two game recommendations that I think are fun to watch. Okay. You might find rewarding. And if you like these games, I might even donate to these times that's for them. Oh, that'd be a great idea. One is Skyrim. I don't know if I'm going to Skyrim. I've heard of it, but I don't know anything about it. I understand that the name is popular enough to have name recognition with me as the extent of this. Yeah, it's a very popular game. It kind of has like a medieval type of setting where you can run around in different places. It's a huge open world type of thing. But one of the features that it has is with a mod, you can have an AI companion that you can talk to over the microphone. And she will respond back to you. And the conversations get quite hilarious every time I've seen it done. Well, I will investigate that and I appreciate the suggestion. Like I said, I don't know much about the game, but it is. I do recognize its popularity as such that Skyrim has name recognition with me. So I will look into that one. Is that on all the platforms or is that a PS4 or PC or is it non-platform specific? You can play it on Steam. I'm sure I know for sure. I think it originally started out as an Xbox game, but it's been so popular that playing for every probably getting on PlayStation, I would figure as well. Okay. So I would figure it's an all platform. The second game that I want to recommend is kind of the same thing they're both made by the same company. But it kind of got a different feature. Fall out for if you ever heard of fall out for. I've heard of fall out. I think is that like yellow and blue cartoon character associated with it, I believe. Yeah. I recognize the brand name, but I don't know anything about the game. Yeah. It's kind of like a post-apocalyptic game and another big open world game and everything I die. And it's, you know, I don't know. It's a lot of kind of a scientific type of thing. So futuristic Skyrim, you could almost think. Okay. Both these great games, both these games, I put my soldiers on whenever I thought they needed a stress break. And it's like, okay, I wanted to do nothing but play these games for like a week and then come back to me and we'll talk about you return in the duty. And it worked. You know, I mean, they they loved it. It was two games that were also very popular like a desert storm and everything like that were, you know, soldiers can can play and lots of you know, it's fun to watch and everything I said. I don't know. It's almost like watching a movie. Yeah. I got that. But with fall out fall out for one of the features that you might find. Interesting and rewarding is there's a mod for it to where it's kind of like it has different factions in the game, you know, that they kind of do their own thing and everything. And one of the factions you can mod to play as our favorite German army. So uniforms in everything. You know, it's definitely something that I would watch. I would donate for it. I think, you know, I think you would have a good time playing it. And I think people would have a good time watching it as well as Skyrim too, you know, with the AI companions. But I've been listening to you talking about the different games that you would play in and thinking about the game stream here with the good dad. And I've wanted to suggest these games since since you started doing this. But since this is pretty much on topic tonight. I figured tonight would be a good time to call it and do so. Well, you know, I always appreciate people calling into the into the shows, even if they're off topic, but if you're on topic, wow, it's, you know, it's a really nice treat. So I do appreciate that, my friend, anything else you want to get out there before I let you go. Well, on just a kind of a site topic. One of the things that I was thinking of that would might be able to we could adapt our government, but kind of keep the same government that we kind of have. Is that you know, label something a meta merit talker, you know, a meritocracy, right? But have a generational republic. So basically you have each of the five generations play the role as the president, but more of like, you know, a council. So it's, I mean, obviously I, I would look at the past 30 years and I'd say we've been living under a boomer dictatorship. You know, and they're holding onto that power and they definitely don't want to let it go. So is that we had each generation also had a say, you know, and each generation could be both for their representatives that you choose to or something like that. I just think that might be a way to keep our print, you know, or you know, three, three different bodies, but just have them under the executive body instead of president. Well, you know, it seems to be, I'd have to consider the implications of that to comment upon it more intelligently, but you know, what strikes me about what you're saying. I'd be out there. What you're saying strikes me this way, which is that, you know, I have what might be described as a somewhat ethnocentric worldview. And so I'm averse to anything that creates divisions within the ethnic group. And so like generational divisions would certainly stand out in that. I really don't like it when, you know, like alt-right personalities have complained about boomers, even if the, even if the critique is, you know, merited. It's like, you know, it's almost like I have a similar opinion about it to when men are complaining about women or vice versa. It's like, well, if you have, you know, if you haven't ethnocentric political movement, then you don't want to create divisions along gender. And, you know, I should stop using that front gender sexual and generational lines, you know. A form of bigotry, you know, basically. And it's like, well, I always kind of go with the formula or this is what worked well with, you know, I thought many different types of troops all over the world. And we use the basic formula that human behavior is experienced times intelligence. So basically, if you know a group of people's experience and you know a group of people's intelligence, well, then you could kind of predict about 75% of their behavior. You follow me on that? I can understand the calculation that you're describing. Yeah, I think I'm not, I don't guess that you're making a precise calculation, but a rough estimate makes sense, yes. Yeah, rough estimate. And so that's why I would say is it's been proven that there is really not much difference between the sexes, right? Especially if they have similar experiences and this is why and this is why I'm going to get into it. Whereas there's a bigger difference even physically, you know what I mean. Between the generations, but they definitely have different experiences even if intelligence are the same. You know, like I said, you know, I don't necessarily like to say, you know, like if it's sounding bigotune saying, all the boomers, you know, all, you know, but the boomers had a lot of opportunities that the rest of us don't have, but they still think that we've had them. You see what I'm saying? I can understand that they have a perspective that is in some contrast to the experience of younger generations. That makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, because they have a different experience. I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment that there's not much different between the sexes. I think that they're dramatically different and that, you know, reconciling those differences is one of the more challenging though, though, though, though rewarding enjoyable and vital, you know, components of the human experience. You know, the, I would go ahead. I would say that if there's, if there's difference between men and women, right, I mean, we are talking about it, you know, it's hard to say men because, you know, white men are divided into two groups. So, you know, if you read, I can't think of the book right now, but it's like, half of white men have a low IQ below 135, right? The other half of white men have a high IQ above 135. And most white women are the IQ of 135, you know, or I'm just using that as a generalizing. Your number is incorrect, but I understand the scale that you're discussing. Okay, so there's a bigger difference between the beta and the alpha, I think, than there is between men and women. So even if there's a difference between men and women, I think there's an even bigger difference. You know what I'm saying here? Is, is between the guy who has to chase women and the guy who was chased by women. I would say that, you know, the difference experiences differ dramatically according to intelligence. I think that's a very fair assessment. And, you know, many other components, of course, the, you know, I'm a guy who knows a thing or two about hormones say, and the impact that hormones make on a person's psychology, I think is not well understood by most people. But the, I think that women have a thought process that men cannot even begin to comprehend and that, you know, we should, we should probably be more conscious of that when taking their feelings into consideration as sort of my broader view on the relationship between the sexes. But, you know, I don't think that intelligence is, is what, is what draws the line between the experiences of men and women in any case. I think a, a man with a 140 IQ and a woman with a 140 IQ rare though they may be actually do not have such a similar experience. I think that a woman's hormonal life and a man's hormonal life put them on completely different planets and I shouldn't say completely different planets, but like, you know, they are complementary to one another. They are, they require each other's, they require each other's not just, not just for reproduction, but, you know, that they are literally not whole people in the absence of the other that they, these two things are what's required to put the world into perspective. I think it's probably a fair way to summarize it. But in any case, I think that it's probably reasonable to, I think that representation within the government based upon, generational representation within the state is not a completely unreasonable goal say that, that you have, okay, this group has interest and those interests need to be represented and this group has interest and, and they need to be represented and the representatives of those groups need to negotiate and discuss what the other person needs to be represented. They need to discuss what their interests are and, and, and how they are coming into conflict and, and how to resolve those conflicts without causing more problems for the civilization. I think is a fair, um, description of affairs and, and that I think has, uh, there's merit to that for sure. Yeah, I just wanted to bring that up is, you know, a generation of republic would, you know, would basically keep our own, you know, how we have it already set up, just it would replace the, the president with the council or at least that was my idea, you know, from, from seeing how, how things are going today. Right. Anyway, you have a good night Chris. It was a good talking to you. You too, my friend. Call again. Thank you very much for the call. Two, one, seven, six, eight, eight, one, four, three, three. If you would like to be on the program and the more you talk to less, I have to, so please to give us a call. Maybe I'll read. Maybe I'll go into, I could go into, I'll tell you what, I'm going to go look at the Odyssey chat in a second. I want your opinion on this. So I had written, um, those of you who follow me on telegram will have heard almost all of this already. Basically put together a blog post. Let me find that. Oh, that's not on surreal policies. It's on Christopher can't hold that stand by while I pull this up. But what I had put together, I kind of like on the, on the, on the prior episode of the radical agenda, some like malicious person called in and started in with this like is slandering the guys, the right stuff that bears. And I hung up on the guy and moved on and then he tried to start antagonizing me on on gab. And I ended up on going on a bit of a tie rate about it. And I, and I talked about some of the things that have been, they've been accused of and, um, and my general outlook on the topic of slander and value more broadly. And I have this thing that is, let's see here, it is 4132 words at present. I'm going to, I can either do that or I can read news from revolver. I'll look at the Odyssey chat after this call and take your opinions about it. 2176881433 if you'd like to join us. Caller, your on surreal politics. What can I do for you today, friend? Hello, thanks for having me on. Thanks for being on. I wanted to, wanted to talk about it, historical incident that I remembered. And I think you should probably remember it too because I believe we're about the same age. Okay. So, do you remember the TV show murky brown? I do. Yeah. So that TV show came out. It was the first show that had a single mom as a character on TV, as far as I know, ever. And when that show came out, the then vice president at the time, Dan Quail made some comments about how it wasn't really a good thing to portray bad life decisions as a glamorous high status lifestyle. Do you remember that? I do. Well, I don't remember the speech by Dan Quail. I was pretty young when murky brown was in production. But I came to later understand why murky brown was controversial. I actually didn't understand it at the time. You know, I was born in 1980 just to put it into perspective. And so, you know, I was a preteen child when murky brown was in original production. And so, my parents are still married to this day. They never divorced. But my mother found this show fascinating. And I watched it. And, you know, I didn't understand everything that was going on in the show very clearly. And then years later, it was made clear to me that this was a controversial news story that they had been doing this that basically, you know, is seen as promoting single motherhood. And today, I agree with that assessment. You know, it would have been better. It influences it is one of the things I don't bring it up very frequently. But it occurs to me when, you know, we have discussions about deplatforming, right? You know, I had this interview with the web hosting talk site called lowendbox.com, which went off like seven hours. And he published near the entire transcript and it became a very subject of substantial controversy on their forum lowendtalk.com. And, you know, we talked about the deplatforming discussion. And I've never I've never been of the opinion that deplatforming is per se bad. Okay. Like if people are promoting things that we don't want promoted, then we should deplatform them. The reason that I should not be deplatformed is because I'm a talented person with worthwhile things to say. And the people who are trying to deplatform me are malicious dishonest people who are trying to deceive the public. But I've never been like, oh, everybody should have a right to speak and air whatever they want. It's never been my view. And I think it's very interesting to think about something that today would seem so mundane as Murphy Brown was actually very controversial back in the 80s. But yeah, and since you mentioned deplatforming. Well, so you were probably near the end of 80. I was near the beginning of 80. So I have a little bit more memory of it. But the vice president at the time was effectively deplatformed. They they threw an absolute fit about this comment he made and they never let him live it down for the rest of the presidency. Like they turned his name into basically a joke in the media right up until he was out of office with president Bush. Well, it's interesting. I never connected those two phenomena. I I under I remember that Dan Quail has basically gone down in history as a moron. And I it didn't occur to me that it had anything to do with the Murphy Brown commentary. But given what I know about our media, it makes perfect sense to me when you say that. Yeah, he tried to stand up against this is generosity and they absolutely steamrolled him. Every from that point on, every flaw, real or imagined. They was just subject to the most ruthless, you know, mockery. The other big thing was do you remember potato with an E. Yeah, the misspelling potato is what stands out in my mind is like he misspelled potato and everybody has didn't though he didn't. So spelling potato with an E is an archaic spelling. But at the time when Dan Quail was going to school, it was still kind of taught as an alternate spelling. And so the question came up during a spelling bee that he was supervising or a guest judging or something. And it wasn't a big deal. But because they were already because they were already on him about that Murphy Brown comment, they exploded it into this huge national controversy and just being just anything they could find to humiliate him. They just seized on it, you know, regardless of merit. And it's basically the same tactic we see in the present day. It makes a lot of sense. And so yeah, I never bothered to research the subject. But what you're saying to me makes sense intuitively that like, you know, the media is very invested in this. Oh, we've got to completely destroy the family. Don't stand in my way. You moron. And of course, I've got to, you know, devalue his commentary. And so anything they can seize on to do that. And they're so short on things to do that they're like, oh, he took an archaic spelling of a word. And that's not the way that we spell it, you know, in the last two weeks. And so he's obviously very stupid. And that says much indeed about their capacity to embarrass the man. I'd say that like, you know, if that's all you've got, well, you know, then you're obviously reaching, huh? Yeah. And I just wonder, you know, I don't, I don't even remember what thought process got me to remember this weird event for my childhood. But I wonder over the last hundred years, how many of these have been where somebody in a position of authority and you could legitimately say, you know, it's part of the ruling class tried to stand up for something decent and was just a theme rolled. And you know, at some point, they most of all just decided to it wasn't worth the trouble anymore. And now here we are. Yeah, they all just sort of gave up. They were like, oh, well, you know, these, these people will completely destroy me. If I dare to challenge them, I guess I better not challenge them anymore. And that's worked out really well for the Republican party, hasn't it? Yeah, all the, all the things that crazy, like even the most devout, like evangelicals of the 80s, like the things that even they were like, whoa, that's crazy. That would never happen. Like the far out prediction that like they've all come true. Sadly. Indeed, they have been indeed, they have well, anything anything else you want to get out there front. No, I think that pretty much covers it. Thanks for letting me. Dread up a little bit of history on this. Thank you very much for doing it. Do do it again, please. Thank you very much for the call. Two on seven six eight eight one four three three if you'd like to be on the program and wait until the last I have to. So please do give us a call now. Here's an interesting phenomenon. I had long ago disabled anonymous calls into the show, but apparently I have, I had reenabled them. It seems because I have a blocked caller ID and if he does not make me hang up on him very quickly, then maybe I'll leave it on for a little longer, but I kind of doubt it. Caller, you're on surreal politics. What can I do for you? Hey Chris, thanks for taking my call. I didn't do you start six seven. I won't do that in future. I just did it instinctively. Sorry. In the future, you might get a busy signal if you do that. If you get a busy signal when calling the show and you know that I'm on the air, it's because it's because you're caller ID. Fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, but one time listener man, big fan number each. I'll see about a half a decade ago asking your opinion on the week. And that was when we're in the midst of our universal all right solidarity. And even then you were kind of wishy washy. So well spotted. But anyway, I was just wondering then if you could do it all over again, and I mean from jump before you became a public figure, would you take? Do you think the risks that you took in the sacrifices you made at this point in your life were worth it? Or do you see yourself just doing the nine to five thing? Oh, I would have definitely gone into media. There's no question in my mind about that like like with all of the information presently, you know, whenever you're asked this question, there's there's two different, you know, questions, you know, working with the same set of information available then, you know, obviously you're going to make the same decisions. Go back with the information that you have available today and then you have the opportunity for revision clearly, right? But the I would say that if I you give me a nuclear delorean and I go to go back and warn myself about stuff. I'd say there's things that I'd change, but it wouldn't I wouldn't change going into media as a matter of fact, I probably would have pursued media more ambitiously and more strategically, you know, when I got into doing this. I didn't I never expected that I'd be doing it as a career you have to understand. So I did things that like screwed up my professional opportunities dramatically, okay? And and and so I had no I did all these things without believing in my potential to be successful as a political media personality. I would I was going to interject with me you were conscious of that when you were doing it like you knew that you know when you started doing identity politics, you know, if you were going to get into it. Well, but the but so here's the thing is that I get into identity politics after years with the libertarians, okay? And so like, you know, with the libertarians, a lot of people don't know this if they don't know the old shows, but like, you know, I would go out and say things. I would openly state that it was a desirable goal to violently overthrow the government of the United States, okay? And so like when you do that, like you invite so much trouble into your life, okay? And so like I was asked this by a police officer one day, it was kind of funny in in Kenu, Hampshire. They were like the cops had stopped me because I was in a movie theater. And I said on telegram, I just sat down to watch the Joker and I have a gun, which is just an accurate statement of me doing something completely legal, but obviously it drives people insane who are like watching my telegram account, right? And so the cops come because some maniac in the FBI I come to find out is like, it is like, oh my god, he's in the theater. When I got you're going to go stop him. And it's like, well, you know, as a matter of fact, the FBI knew very well that that was not an indication of danger. They're just making my life difficult. But what, what, what, what? With the cop asses, he's like, well, like why are you, you know, why are you creating all of this static for yourself? You know, like, you know, if you could do something else, like why don't you do this? And my answer to him was because I already settled a stupid crap with the libertarians. Like I can't dig myself out of this hole and just go into normal mainstream respectable politics. I've dug myself into this position. So when I started venturing down the path of identity politics, part of the reason that I did it was because I saw that, you know, other people were afraid to do it. They were afraid that they were going to harm their reputations. And I said, well, my reputation is already trash from all the lunatic things that I've said with the libertarians. So like, what are you going to call me a racist? I don't care. Go ahead. Right? Like, right? You know, that, that seemed to be a reasonable thing for me to do in the position that I had already worked myself into. Had I understood? You think you were correct about that, though? Do you think the heat that you took for staying libertarian stuff? And I know it was a G.I. appreciate that. But surely the white nationalist stuff is just going to bring another level, right? Well, the thing is that I didn't fully appreciate that either. Right? So the thing is that I actually did not understand the gravity of what I was getting myself into. So like, you know, my thought process had been, I've been running around saying, you know, I've been running around literally making myself an enemy of the state. And in the libertarian mindset, the state is the most powerful institution. The state is the most dangerous institution. And so all the enemies that my mindset at the time was incorrectly that I was incorrectly believing that in comparison to the state one could not make a stronger or more dangerous foe. And so for me to go out and upset, you know, activists and lobbyists and, you know, Jewish lawyers or whatever, I did not think that that could possibly hold a candle to the perils that I had endured as a libertarian. And I was made to understand that that is very misguided. And so like, if I had any concept of like, like, it wasn't, you know, I had no history of like the white nationalist movement. I had no many idea how many, you know, different activists have been killed or spent the rest of the way. I didn't know any of this stuff. And so like, when I got involved in it, I really did not, I did not comprehend the gravity of what I was getting myself into. And so, you know, if I had understood then the things I understood today, you know, what I eventually entered down the path, I imagine that something approximating what I've done would have happened. But I probably would have been, I would certainly have been more cautious about it. I just don't know, you know, in what, what capacity off the top of my head. But it's a thoughtful, you know, thought exercise for sure. Very nice. Hey, thanks, man. I appreciate you. I appreciate you too. Thank you very much for the call. 217-688-1433. If you'd like to be on the program and the more you told the less I have to, so please do, give us a call. I appreciate that. Probably more than you realize, friend. Thank you very much for that. You know, that is, you know, a guy called into the into the game stream the other night on the discord. And I noticed that, you know, you had a very, his voice sounded good and he was, he was talented for talking. And he mentioned that he had an expensive microphone. And when we got off the stream, I asked him for his email, whatever. And I told him, like, hey, you know, I said to him, you're talented. He mentioned that he had a podcast. And he said, but, you know, nobody listens to it. And so when I emailed him afterwards, I was like, you know, hey, keep at it, man, you know, like you're talented. You have the potential to be successful. Be more strategic than I was. I, I cut myself off from a lot of opportunity trying to get ahead through shock value is the advice that I gave him. And that's sound advice, you know, you can, you can rapidly gain through shock value, right? You can, you can skip the line in some respects, but it limits what you can accomplish overall is what I've learned very much the hard way. And so, you know, if I could go back to, you know, my first YouTube videos, you know, I would change a lot of things, but, you know, we're not granted opportunities like that. And so we work with, we work with the circumstances that we have created for ourselves. 217-688-1433, if you'd like to be on the program and I'm worried it's not the less I have to, so please give us a call. Failing that, nobody has given me any input on the question of whether I should read this T.R.S. thing or whether I should read the news. So I'm just going to read the T.R.S. thing. During the holiday season, yes, Christmas time, of course, I'm just making a general statement that includes Thanksgiving, so relax. It is prudent to reflect upon those things that we are grateful for. Among the things I am most grateful for is that I have better things to do with my life than hate the folks over at therightstuff.biz like it's my full-time job. On stage 6, episode 45 of the Radical Agenda, a disreputable cartoon character, mostly most likely homosexual and of Jewish ancestry, aimed to slander my business competitor with my assistance. As anyone with even a peripheral awareness of my content, two brain cells together rubbed, two brain cells to rub together, knows all too well, I am averse to this sort of thing. So upon refuting his nonsense, I promptly ended the call with my thanks. The little S then started in with me on gab, and I told him that I'd not tolerate slander if he has a legitimate point, I'll gladly hear it, but I'd appropriately block his number each time he tried to stunt in the future at which point he announced his endless supply of Obama phones and promise to waste his days and financial resources calling me from this disreputable stockpile of federal assistance. So here's this screenshot that I'm referencing. I had much more to say, it's unfortunately you'd read my call, there's a lot of issues surrounding my keynote, in particular in the NJP in general that are concerning, I do enjoy your show, and I'm just looking for answers, though I think you'd be the one to ask, obviously, anyway, maybe next time we could peel up more. And I said next time don't spew falsehoods on my show, you said things that are demonstrably false, you call my show to slander people again, Albania number, and I'll block you wherever I find you. Man, I'm too sorry, I asked him with legitimate questions on your show about a guy who's got more than enough S surrounding him, that I don't have to slander him and make demonstrably false statements about him. Next time I call you show up, do it from a different number, and use my Frank Rizzo voice to ask you about Mike's ex-Juben, Ibereth White, okay, beef tits. And I said, now Albania number, and the one after that, and I'll make sure everyone knows that you're a lying homosexual, thanks for demonstrating this consistently in public. He says to me, I've got an arsenal of Obama burner phones, bro, and I say scumbags tend to do that, all right. And so, this is the summon substance of this man's intellectual input to our society, and that's why, you know, some people don't believe that everybody is right to live. What this guy is doing is obviously contemptible, no matter how you look at it. If you're stockpiling prepaid phones, you're generally finding it worthwhile to change your number frequently, you're a loser, and everything you do in life sucks. Even if you have every legitimate reason in the world to hate everything TRS does, people like this actually harm your cause, and so I figure we must be on the same page and hating this loser. I, however, do not hate everything that TRS does. For the most part, my feelings could charitably be described as disinterest, and I find the haters a far more curious phenomenon than the fans. I know that the TRS guys are talented, and that they have done a lot of good work. I have a pretty good idea of how they obtain their status, and I do not consider that process on the whole at all curious, much less disreputable. I'm not bothered to investigate the subject matter of the content in recent years, but the allegations people tend to lob against them in public with any frequency tend to strike me as either uncontroversial or easily disproven. If you know anything about me, you know that I have endured more than a little bit of slander over the course of my career. I'm keenly aware of the value of a reputation due in no small part to this. I thus have a very special sort of contempt for people who go around tarnishing reputations carelessly and a burning hatred for people who do so with intent. I went on a bit of a dietribe on gab and telegram about this subject a couple days ago, and the volume was sufficient to warn a blog post, and I'm going to share the substance of this with you here. But before I do, whenever this comes up, I feel compelled to remind people that I have no particular desire to carry water for the TRS guys. They are my competitors. We sell the same product to the same target demographic. If I didn't take reputation seriously, there's a train of thought where I stand to gain in some correlation with their losses. But I just don't view the world in that way, and I tend to feel a great deal of pity for the misguided fools who do. There's actually not a limited supply of overall value in the world, which we need to destroy one another over. There are scarce resources, yes, life in general is a competitive sport. There are winners and losers in this, winners and losers, then too. But winners and losers in this animated contest, and I obviously, perhaps, aim to win. But if you indulge me in a bit of a thought exercise, try to imagine a scenario where the number of monetary units in circulation today were to somehow remain constant from now until the end of time. In that scenario, any plausible economic theory would anticipate those units increasing in purchasing power, perpetually, because although scarce resources are constantly consumed, every productive person who aims to earn a living creates value until those efforts cease. The cumulative amount of goods and services in the marketplace increases while the number of monetary units remains the same, and thus the supply-demand relationship between the two places downward pressure on prices as measured in those monetary units. Inflation is a product of monetary and credit expansion. There are other things that place upward pressure on prices, but properly understood, to quote Milton Friedman, inflation is always in everywhere a monetary phenomenon. I make a podcast, TRS makes a podcast. Your time is a scarce resource. For this, we are in competition. Your ability to earn money is limited, and thus the resources you have to spend supporting entertainers is limited. For this, we are in competition. The overall supply of value is not limited, and for this, we are not in competition. With all due respect to the converted, it is not a very ambitious goal for me to obtain your attention. If, as a political actor, I mean to make an impact that impact is measured by my conversions of the as-yet-unconverdance, part of the why I'm doing a game-streaming. I can surely do more of this if I am well paid by those who believe something proximate to what I believe, and so I take that part of my job seriously enough, but people with money to spend do not tend to find slander admirable because a wealthy man understands that he will quickly cease to be a good partner. But it is not a good thing to be wealthy if he loses his reputation. So, in the first place, the support I would accrue by amplifying an endorsing defamation is not of the kind that would tend to increase my own material well-being in the long term. More to the point, value overall is not measured in scarce resources or monetary units as such. It is a measure of the capacity to meet human wants and ease human discomforts. Of this, there is actually not a limited supply. I am not creating scarce physical resources, much less monetary units by producing a podcast. I am actually consuming a great deal of such resources by powering my electronics and feeding myself and doing all that I must do that goes into my productions. A reasonable person does not from this conclude that I have failed to create value or that I have destroyed them with my productions. I have created as much value as I have satisfied human wants and my capacity to do that does not actually have a hard physical limit since there are no meaningful limits on human wants and such wants may be filled by the simple or the complex, the scarce or the plentiful, all the same. If I utter two words that make the whole world happy, unlikely though that may be, then I have satisfied the wants, a billions of people and thereby created a trend of tremendous amount of value. By contrast, if I ruin a popular podcast, I am destroying value. If I wreck a good man's reputation, I am destroying a very valuable thing. These are, in my estimation, disreputable things for a man to do. It is far worse than the cliche of setting money on fire since doing this would at least in theory increase the value of the remaining monetary units in circulation, whereas depriving people of their enjoyment of a creative man's efforts really only removes that value of those efforts from the marketplace, destroying a good man's reputation only limits his ability to meet wants and thereby generate value. These would, in theory, place upward pressure on prices as measured in stable monetary units since now the supply demand relationship between value in the market and monetary units, it would be tilted in favor of the monetary units. I cannot make anyone better off by destroying good things. Sure enough, I can prevent greater destruction if I destroy destructive things, so destruction is not per se disreputable. It is just by definition not productive. Destruction is incapable of increasing value. I have been known to attack the people and things that I view as threatening to those things I value. I do believe that there is more value in the world as a consequence of me doing so than had I declined to so do. I hold cowards in contempt largely for this reason. But the idea that I win as a direct and predictable consequence of all loss to my competitor is loser think at its worst. It is laziness run amuck. It is on par with idiotic theories about war being good for the economy, or as it is commonly described in economics texts, the broken window fallacy so well articulated by one Frederick Bostiat so long ago. TRS isn't paying me, they aren't promoting me, I have no particular reason to think that they will ever do either of those things. None of them wrote to me in prison. I haven't seen them in years. I don't listen to their shows or know whether they are worth listening to. It's just not something I am all that interested in. I have done a minimal degree of market research to glean what I can about them from a business perspective. I spoke to Mike once or twice when I got out of prison. I have his phone number and I presume if I call he will either pick up or call me back but I haven't seen fit to try in more than six months. That is the extent of my relationship with the TRS guys today. I spoke a bit about our history on a recent recording and if you haven't listened to it already that is certainly worth listening to. On account of this reality, perhaps the most telling thing about the TRS hater crowd is how quickly they attack me when I don't join in their disreputable mission. Despite my thorough disinterest in what TRS does, I have been accused by their, I suppose the popular term these days is a log so I'm not sure exactly how this is spelled or what the entomology of that term is. They accuse me of TRS desucking and I'll let you figure out what D stands for there. Anyone who assumes that I'm sucking D is is obviously exposing themselves as a bad actor just for the fact that their mind is in the gutter and this is where their mind tends to drift when considering how other men spend their time. The fact that I made that I'd make precisely zero mention of TRS where not for them is all the more evidence of their disreputable claim. The last time I listened to a full episode of one of their shows when I wasn't a gas was probably in 2016, maybe 2017 and I don't even dislike them. It's just not something I devote my energy to. The idea that I would take time out of my day to dislike much less hate a podcast is preposterous to me and if I were going to devote energy to such an endeavor, it seems to be there is more offensive material to be found when it's going down.org or CNN or any other transgender terrorist website. Even if every lousy thing said about TRS who's 100% true the idea that somebody would so much as bothered to type out the allegations to me seems downright childish. Let's take the most common one the allegation that Mike Enoch is Jewish. We should all aspire to achieve a social status where this is the worst thing that somebody can say about us. I am as much an anti-Semi just anybody living today but the mere fact of a man's ancestry is not actually what animates me. It is the things that these people do and more broadly the left wing influence that they have on our politics that make me an anti-Semi. So I am thoroughly disinterested to even know if a man who presents his white has an ancestor who wore a kippah. And given that I have so often and so vocally stated this thorough disinterest in that subject when people bring it up out of the blue such as the fellow who called into my show that night for what was obviously the first time I spot them very quickly as bad actors. If TRS were some kind of plot to screw white people over this would not by this point be a debatable subject. We've seen these people come and go repeatedly over the years and they tend to burn out their reputation very rapidly. You would have to come be a complete idiot for example to think that we or Andrew Anglin were anything other than criminal scumbags financed by powerful forces. It won't take another five years for people to figure this out about Nick Fuentes. The reason anti-Semitism works is because the the targets of it cannot help but demonstrate patterns of behavior that make their nefarious character obvious to observers and they try to shut it down because they don't want it mentioned. If a guy comes on a podcast and speaks without a script for several hours a week you might conclude that he was an idiot or a bad guy or whatever. You don't have to be a genius or a saint to talk into a microphone for sure but one cannot through deception alone accomplish the things that TRS has accomplished they are successful due a long track record of hard earned merit. There are those who say that they are squandering this I am not in a position to judge the merits of that but at least those people have a leg to stand on they can honestly defend that position rationally and not be spotted for scoundrels in the process. The people who say it's all some kind of trick they cannot avoid being so spotted. Here's another very telling component of the TRS hater nonsense so the guy who called into the show that night he voiced a common refrain. Why did Mike Enoch get dismissed from the lawsuit that I was involved in the signs be cast with thing down in Virginia? Well if the caller had devoted enough time to understanding the subject he was discussing that actually would not be a mystery. You wouldn't be posting this in the form of a question you would have read the judges decision and you would have known the judge moon spelled it out quite plainly. If you thought the judge is doing Mike Enoch some kind of favor and this you could have easily gone through the complaint and verified what was said yourself. But the guy didn't do that because he's not interested in knowing why Mike Enoch was dismissed from the lawsuit. His only purpose in posing the question was to make a false statement in the guise of just asking questions. Now that is a very disreputable thing to do it as a matter of fact it meets a stereotype of a despised definite group manipulating language like that. Smart people spot this very quickly and you only fool sincere idiots when you do this. The reason Mike Enoch was dismissed from that lawsuit was because the clip plaintiffs failed to state a claim as the legal term. This means that even if everything he was accused of doing in the complaint were true which is precisely the assumption the decision on such motions is based on there would be no cause to hold him liable under the statutes being cited. If I sue you for assault and I cite the statute making it illegal to assault people then I go on for 40 pages in my complaint about what a miserable jerk you've been acting like on the internet. But failed to mention the part where I got assaulted or failed to mention the part where you were the one who committed the assault then the judge will appropriately spare me the pain of legal process by dismissing me from that suit. That is exactly what the plaintiffs did to Mike Enoch. They failed to state a claim. He went to a demonstration. He didn't even get to the demonstration. I don't think he showed up in the city. He was scheduled to speak and he talked about it on his podcast. There was no allegation much less any evidence that he planned the event engaged in violence instructed anyone to do anything illegal or was ever made aware of such a plot. All the plaintiffs accused him of doing was talking about the event and arriving in the city and that's not illegal not even arguably. Now you might accurately say that other people ought to have been dismissed. You could say that the judge totally screwed us all and he most certainly did. But if Judge Moon had denied Mike Enoch's motion to dismiss an appellate court would have eventually overturned that decision and it would have embarrassed Judge Moon it would have tainted the entire litigation categorically to keep Enoch as a defendant. But only the people who bother to inform themselves of the circumstances would know that and all of these people who are just asking questions so persistently demonstrate that they are lacking any such curiosity when the documents are staring them straight in the face. When the caller was confronted with the obviousness of this he went into wholesale slander claiming that Mike Enoch gave over a user list in discovery. Even I did not have to do that and I was not dismissed from the lawsuit so that was obviously fake. The allegation was outright preposterous and the caller knew it and he was just trying to throw as much dirt as he could before I ended the call which was not so long after this. Here's another people who devote their days to the joyless existence of hating T.R.S. as their primary function in life often say that Mike Enoch married a Jewish woman of this there is actually no dispute it is the singular allegation with factual basis and okay fine if within your hierarchy of values a man who fell in love with a Jewish woman must be an a fairies character and incapable of redemption then that is your hierarchy of values and all I can say about this is that I can not be a true man. I can't say about this is that I consider your view misguided but I cannot challenge the factual accuracy of your claim. Yet you will find no traction with this on the radical agenda or surreal politics because I am 100% certain that I have impregnated at least one Korean woman, one black woman and one Dominican woman. The only reason I am not buying Christmas presents for those four mixed-race children of mine right now the only reason I am not shouting for the rooftops how much I love them and their mothers is because the mothers aborted them without my consent. I cried my eyes out and Dania committed suicide as a consequence each time and I remained to this day and avid prolifer. I am not a very uncomfortable component of my life as you might imagine given what I know today. There is an argument to be made that I am much better off for what those women did but I might sooner kill myself to consider what they did in any sense good. At any one of those three women done with those four pregnancies what I today think they ought to be legally obligated to do I like to think that I have come to know the same things that I know today all the same. I hope that I would still find the courage to tell the truth and advocate for my people perhaps I might even go so far as to suffer the pain and the damage to my reputation of going through divorce and seeking a white wife to contribute to the genetic future of our race. But in the first place I realize there is no certainty of that and I would consider it a very painful and disreputable thing to divorce my wife for any reason other than her being sexually disloyal. A man who swears to do a thing incurs a serious obligation thereby and to disavow that oath is a very serious thing for a reputable man to even consider much more to actually follow through on. I do not know all the circumstances and I have my doubts ethnic animus was the singular cause of the man's divorce but provided the marriage occurred prior to his becoming aware of the JQ a white man who marries a, I'm sorry, who divorces a Jewish woman has more to answer for in divorcing her than he does in marriage. I will not endorse abortion just because I was ignorant of race in my youth I would not disavow my offspring today had I been spared the pain of their unceremonious slaughter by the ghouls of the abortion industry. When people have called the show expressing regret therein love would a non white woman while becoming aware of the things that we discuss I had never once instructed any of them to leave that woman. I'd not be so sappy to say that love conquers all but it has surely conquered stronger men than I and if that seems odd to you then you have my most sincere sympathy. Over the years I become something of a criticism connoisseur I value meaningful criticism of myself because I find this in this I find opportunity for improvement when people care about me inform me of my errors I thank them this happens often and I consider it a blessing. This sadly does not describe the bulk of the criticism that I receive with the absolute non stop stream of complete nonsense spewed in my direction I have had to learn to discern between quality criticism and utter nonsense. There is of course the more nuanced sort as well wherein malicious actors pick on a sincere flaw and propose non solutions as a means of manipulating people and there's an awful lot of this my own thoughts are haunted by self criticism and I know from experience much of this also lacks merit. When I observe criticism about others it is become impossible not to notice that the best people are treated the worst in this fallen world man who is attacked by a mob stands out to me as a potential ally and upon this observation I must carefully consider the totality of the circumstances in doing this I have also observed that bad actors have taken advantage of this very phenomenon and use the disreputable behavior of political opposition is cover for their misdeeds. I do not have a formula to share with you to tell you which kind is which I wish I had such a calculation to separate the signal from the noise in my own life but I do not is a constant and perpetual exercise learning and discernment I make mistakes and historically some of them have been quite severe when I criticize others I try and sometimes fail to be cautious in my target acquisition of methodology I find my talent for language proves both helpful and harmful in this because I can say things with wit or venom without forfeiting doubt. I can say that I have a lot of detail or precision a mocking tone or evident contempt might hammer home the point or it might distract there from depending on a limitless variety of unstable variables. What I can say with absolute certainty is that liars are poor sources of information and that organized long term campaigns of lies are the product of well financed political organizations and intelligence agencies not grassroots audience revolts. Most of what I see is that the love to the TRS crew could credibly be suspected of coming from AI tech generators a few themes are plugged into a computer system that monitors the public communications of a community machine learning mimic speech patterns of the participants echoes the slander according to those patterns through anonymous online accounts each of whom appear on the surface to operate with all the energy of a well compensated full time employee real people do not behave in this way. And I know this in part because I know sincere people who really dislike the TRS crew they have good faith complaints and suspicions there is substance to what they complain about most notably since these sincere people have higher priorities than to center their politics around contempt for a podcast they no longer consider worth listening to. They have a healthy holistic worldview in which their distaste for a set of content producers is well integrated and appropriately prioritized they have my utmost respect and they are not the targets of my contempt these paragraphs I suspected day when documents will be declassified to tell us the role of government intelligence agencies and what I've here described and those institutions on the other hand have earned all of my hostility. And so ladies and gentlemen I'm going to give you one last chance to call in if you can't to two one seven six eight one four three three if you would like to be on the program I'll go over here and check on the chat and see if there's anything on here. 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